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November 11, 2008

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Alan Green

Rob the idea of prime providers has been around in DWP and Jobcentreplus for some time now and i gues it does use the key partner principle you mentioned sort of a captain of the team. But alas its fairness is in question becuase the cash hungry leaders of the pack dont play ball, instead the reality is in many cases quite different. To expand, in my experience when it comes to writng funding bids the captains foster good relationshiips with the third sector team players and give us all the team play talk backed up with promises of rewards. Off goes the bid, Prime contractor appointed, team suspended ? The reality is that in many, but not all, cases the retoric is different from the reality. Indeed one such Prime contractor in the North East uses a local community centre, who struggle to survive, as its base for one of its programmes and despite the orignal rehtoric they pay nothing. Of course the DWP have a huge part ot play here they could police their contracts far better and also provide a procedure for third sector organisations to lodge appeals or complaints regarding none compliance. Alas i also have ot say that far more third sector organisations could see themsellves as the captain and not a poor friend of the team. The prime contractor model is sound in theory but the practice is in question.

Rob Greenland

Thanks Alan, that's interesting. I suppose for me it's a reminder once again of the imperfections of the market. The reason I think the category captain analogy is useful is that it points us to potential problems with the Prime Provider approach. For me that's not a reason not to do it. Instead it should help us to anticipate where there might be problems - so that you can intervene (or at least monitor closely) so that when things don't go to plan, you're on the ball and can step in.

I think there's an issue sometimes in that existing State-run systems are often so flawed, so that a shiny new solution can look so perfect - and we forget to remain critical of the new approach for fear of appearing anti-progress. Clearly the impact you outline above wouldn't be the one that people had in mind.

Ted Harvey

I'm struck by the similarities between what you post about 'prime providers' and the Scottish (SNP) Government's controversial proposals on affordable housing development programmes.

Their assertion is that the is a need to rationalise and consolidate the number of developers and garner economies of scale from larger programmes. The way to do this, allegedly, is to have large regional-wide programmes (similar to England's?) each with a 'lead developer'.

The lead developer will act as host developer for a range of smaller providers. The assumption is that we are here all still talking about housing associations, but that is where the con troversy begins.

A particular worry I have is over the language - why suddenly have the SNP invariably used the term 'affordable housing' and seemingly ignored 'social rented', or even 'affordable rented'?

Maybe associated with the language issue, the SNP has suggested that the lead could be a private developer. Moreover, you know, just somehow know, that the big losers in all this will be the myriad of smaller community controlled housing associations. Their pesky wee 'local' schemes with all that goody-goody stuff about community engagement (I'm being ironic!) will be seen as a distraction from the grander big schems.

Some critics are also arguing that the larger regional programmes have anyway not delivered the anticipated savings - I have no idea if that is true.

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